Sunday, July 4, 2010

America Was Not Founded On Christianity

From the Treaty of Tripoli 1796 (click here for full doc.)

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
I think we should pray for the senators who voted unanimously for the treaty as well as president John Adams who signed it.

Obviously, they are all burning in Hell.

As well as the Founders, since they didn't create a theocracy akin to King Solomon or David.

Happy July 4th!

From Purgatory


  1. America may not have been founded on christian principles, but since every single president up to Kennedy (who was a Catholic) was a Protestant, and 50% of American's are Protestant, not to mention a good 23% Catholic, 1% Mormon, and 1% other Christian sects, we are certainly a Christian state.

    1. No, we are certainly NOT a "xian state". This country was founded on freedom, not idiotic irrational oppression based on childish fairy tales. The only xian "principles" that we started out with were slavery, bigotry and misogyny. The longer our country survives, the farther we push that embarrassing part of our culture away.

      Religion is clearly the bane of civilized society. It is the single most damaging thing to reasonable, rational societies. I know it sucks that people who believing idiotic childish fairy tales are losing their power to oppress everyone else with impunity, but you better get used to it, since rational people are overtaking this country like a cleansing fire.

  2. Back to the first Comment - The majority of the the people making up the country are undeniably Christian, but that does not make the State Christian or the State's institutions an extension of the Catholic/Mormon/Baptist church.

  3. Christianity certainly informed the foundation of America, but it was in no way codified by the Constitution. Those who run for office should be required to demonstrate continuing education on Constitutional foundations of American government. And those who promote their "America is a Christian nation" dogma should be required to read their Ten Commandments every day, especially the one about lying.

  4. In RE: Comment #1, the vast majority of the Presidents have been white, so according to you, we must be a White Nation.

    Also, all of them were male, so we must be a Male Nation as well.


  5. Actually Andy the vast majority of the founding fathers were Deists or Masons. There are hundreds of quotes from Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams and Madison etc. on religion and it's place in government.

  6. I have always wanted to ask someone who asserts that America was founded on Christian principles; which ones? I mean which ones exactly? Separation of powers? Federalism? Judicial Review? The Bill of Rights? I don't remember seeing any of these in the Bible or even developed by any of the various Christian denominations over the years. So, if not these, which ones are the supposedly founding principles that are derived from Christianity?
    I offer this not just for rhetorical purposes, I really would be interested in a specific answer.


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